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Cambridge University Alumni 1261-1900 Name: Arthur George. Harvey College: ST JOHN'S Entered: Michs. 1894 Born: 20 Mar 1876 More Information: Adm. pens. at ST JOHN'S, Oct. 4, 1894. S. of George, surgeon, of Wirksworth, Derbs.[and Julia Agnes Potter]. B. there Mar. 20, 1876. Schools, Wirksworth Grammar (Mr A. Berridge) and Malvern College (Mr A. St John Gray). Matric. Michs. 1894; B.A. 1897; M.B. and B.C. 1905; M.D. 1909. At the Middlesex Hospital, London. M.R.C.S.; L.R.C.P., 1903. House Physician at the Middlesex Hospital. In practice at Wirksworth, Derbs. Medical Officer of Health, Bonsall Urban District. Served in the Great War, 1914-19 (Capt., R.A.M.C.). Of 27, Rugby Road, Brighton, in 1944. (Malvern Coll. Reg.; Medical Directories.)

from 14th August 1915 BMJ (British Medical Journal). 'Low SPECIFIc GRAVITY OF URINE. DR. ARTHUR GEORGE HARVEY (Wirksworth, Derbyshire) writes: A few days ago a gentleman came to me to be examined for life insurance. He was a healthy, vigorous young man, aged 28, engaged in farming. I left him alone to pass urine, and on returning to the room I was surprised to find the fluid was exactly like spring water, and had a specific gravity of 1000. He was perfectly normal in every other respect. The next morning he sent a sample of his urine passed early in the morning. This sample was normal in colour, had a specific gravity of 1024, acid, and free from albumin and sugar. I have frequently had cases of low specific gravity of urine due to nervousness, but never one approaching this case. The peculiarity of this case is that he showed no sign of nervousness during examination, and I am inclined to attribute it to his drinking large quantities of tea, as he is a total abstainer. I should like to have the experiences of other men on the subject'.

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----Anyone with more details for publication on this webpage, please email ---- ------------------------------ Hi John The information we have about the Harvey's is not very extensive but as below: As you said Dr. George Harvey came from Cork, Ireland. His wife Julia (Potter) from the Middlesex area. Surgeon and Certifying Factory Surgeon and Medical Officer Wirksworth District, Belper Union and Medical Officer to Matlock Bath urban district. Member of the Royal College of Surgeons. I found a few references to him in the BMJ. Photo we took of grave attached. It appears that none of George/Julia's children married. In the 30's they seem to have moved to Brighton, Arthur George passing away in 1948, Maud 1958, Ida 1962 and Florence 1975. In George Harvey's Will he bequeathed £11,300.23 to Ida Harvey and Arthur George, what we couldn't understand was that both Ida and Florence were still alive (they were at his funeral) but they didn't seem to get mentioned in the will. You being an expert, what would the education standard in the mining area of Somercotes (a poor area in the early 1900s?) have been like? We have some of our grandfather's wartime diaries and he seems to have been quite well educated and intelligent, able to express himself well but he came from quite a poor background. His diaries noted several visits of King George, to Scapa Flow and the writer Rudyard Kipling aboard HMS Mischief (grandad's ship) Grandad was studying geology, scope and value etc. of course with mining in mind. Because his link with the Harvey's was never talked about, we just wondered if there could have been any contribution to his education. I realise this is all conjecture but intriguing. His son Arthur George Harvey (whom we understand is our great grandfather): ------------------------------ Hi John Just looking at the list of coffin bearers: J W Barker - we have a Joseph William Barker, he was a brother of Mary Wilson (nee Barker), wife of our Grandfather Arthur Wilson. I can't imagine it would be our J W Barker, but intriguing all the same. Sue ------------------------------ Hi John On looking further at the Sarah Jane Wilson you have a record of I don't think it is the same as our Sarah Jane: Born 1875 Birchwood, Derbyshire, Father John Wilson and mother Priscilla Wilson (nee Bonsall) Father Thomas Bonsall 1815. We are all thrilled with the picture of George Harvey. Regards Sue ------------------------------ Hello Sue, Yes, I have! They sent me photocopies of the obituary and photo from a local newspaper. The quality of the photo is rather poor though (see attached scan). They say: Dear Mr Palmer Apologies for keeping you waiting so long. It has taken me a wee while to search our newspapers on film, for this gentleman. I checked the High Peak News (I thought the most likely one) on Dec. 1st, 8th and 15th, nothing there. I checked the Derby Mercury and found an obituary in the issue for 7th December. I checked the Derbyshire Times and found a photograph ... bearing the caption "Dr Harvey of Wirksworth" "a full obituary and report of funeral appear on another page". I couldn't find the "other page". Checked through the next edition also, not there. I asked Ruth (Gordon) and she said that they may well have had a wee space for the photograph in the Chesterfield edition, which is what this was, but the rest was probably in the Matlock edition. Which, of course, has not survived to be filmed. I checked the Ashbourne Telegraph for Nov. 30th and Dec. 7th and found nothing. So saying, I have to send you, the obituary from the Derby Mercury and a photograph (quite a reasonable one) from the Derbyshire Times. This may be satisfactory for you but if you wish to search further Ruth said it might be worth trying the Ashbourne News Telegraph and the Belper News. However, they are at Ashbourne and Belper libraries respectively and at Derby Local Studies Library. It's such a shame the DTimes obit. hasn't survived, maybe someone local clipped it at the time, but it's a case of tracking it down of course. If you can send a land line address I will post out to you the photograph and the obituary. I don't think they will scan to email very well. One last possibility, we have a few bits that have been donated from the estate of Michael Handley of Wirksworth, who sadly died last year. I will check through those. I don't think there are many photographs though. Have you tried DRO and Derby Local Studies? Yours sincerely Sue Band Library Assistant I haven't got round to putting this info on a webpage yet, maybe when I can get some info from you to add to it? In a Walker pedigree www.wirksworth.org.uk/P-WALK-2.htm. I have a Sarah Jane Wilson b 1874 Could this be the one? Keep me posted John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website www.wirksworth.org.uk ------------------------------ From: Sue O'S To: John Palmer Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Dr. George Harvey, Wirksworth, South End Hello John I just wondered if you had any feedback from the Local Studies Library at Matlock? With best wishes Sue ------------------------------ From: John Palmer To: Sue O'S Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Dr. George Harvey, Wirksworth, South End Hello Sue, Thanks for the email. Glad you liked the website. Alas, I don't think I have a photo of Dr George Harvey. He seems to have practised in Wirksworth from before 1871 to after 1911, and came from Cork in Ireland. He was a very well known personality in the town, and was buried there, and certainly deserves a webpage if I could get a photo of him. Perhaps you would contribute what you know of the good doctor? I am writing to the Local Studies Library at Matlock to see if they have an Obituary (1923) and perhaps a photo. Best wishes, John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website, www.wirksworth.org.uk ------------------------------ From: Sue O'S To: johnpalmer@wirksworth.org.uk Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:17 AM Subject: Dr. George Harvey, Wirksworth, South End Dear John I think you website is fab. I have searched through it on numerous occasions. I don't know if you can point me in the right direction: Myself and my sister are visiting Wirksworth next week, staying in the town for a week. We are doing a bit of family research as our father originally came from Somercotes. There is a bit of a 'skeleton in the cupboard' as there is in most families, in that my father's father, Arthur Wilson was born out of wedlock to a Sarah Jane Wilson, who was a maid at Dr. Harvey's house in Wirksworth and became pregnant by the son Arthur George Harvey, (who became a surgeon and is mentioned in various papers pertaining to Wirksworth and the surrounding area) the Harvey's offered to take on the child/help with his upbringing but the Wilson's closed rank and refused any help. The Harvey's are my families ancestors and we have done quite a bit of research on them and it seems none of the children of George Harvey and Julia Harvey ever married. What interests us most though is the possibility of any photographs that appeared in the local press of any of them. They must have had a bit of standing in the town and been photographed at some functions. Any ideas of where we could look? I have studied the photos on site but can't find anything relevant. Look forward to hearing from. Regards Sue O'Sullivan ------------------------------

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